Jayni Lyf

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| map-marker Hua Hin, Prachuap Khiri Khan

Dishonesty

Sad stories about RL360 eroding individuals savings with penal redemption clause. But when you eventually can close your policy, watch RL360 delay, ignore requests, change instructions, lie, the list is infinite. RL360 are by far the worst company in the world I have ever had the miss fortune to deal with. AVOID RL360 AT ALL COSTS
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User's recommendation: NEVER EVER BECOME A RL360 CUSTOMER, YOU WILL REGRET UNTIL YOUR DIEING DAY

Terriana Ome

Terrible Plan, Crazy Fees

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Getting charge 8% so they can lose money. Going to cancel the plan, they are charging $13k PA for doing nothing
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Loss:
$50000
Cons:
  • High costs for no reason

Preferred solution: Full refund

User's recommendation: Never consider RL

Anonymous
map-marker Los Angeles, California

Investors who have lost money in RL360 go to Expat Investment Fraud register and join up in our Class Action .You will recover your losses through these Fraudulent Funds .Full details are set out,

These Insurance Companies set up on the Isle O f Man from where

they have sold these financial fraudulent Instruments away from the gaze of the Uk Regulatory Authorities .

The main offenders are a variety of Redemption Bonds sold through

mainly unlicensed financial advisors who recommend dubious or downright fraudulent Funds such Axiom Finance Fund , LM MPF,Rare Earth and many more.

Trustees of pension Funds such as Momentum placed their Investors

into these Funds as well as so called Financial Advisors world wide for which they received outrageous and in some cases illegal Commission and back handed payments from the Funds themselves as incentives to recommend these Funds to the Insurers such as RL 360.

EIF is preparing Class Actions to help recover these effectively stolen funds from innocent Pensioners and retail investors.

feel free to mail me as this is my life mission and I am happy to discuss but in the meantime read the details of Investment Fraud.com

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rl360 expatinvestmentfraud com

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Anonymous
map-marker Saitama, Saitama

High fees, low returns, questionable contractual terms, pushy/dishonest sales tactics

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I am an expat with some investing experience, but taxes and investing from abroad can be a bit complicated. I wanted to find a financial advisor to help me plan for my future.

I signed up for a 25-year quantum plan from RL360 recommended by a local financial advisor.

After a few years, I noticed something odd. The funds I held were performing well, but the returns reflected in my account seemed very low. It turns out that the fees were eating away a ton of my money. I was ready to cancel after calculating how much money would go to fees over 25 years.

I was quite angry; my advisor had mentioned that the fees were relatively low.

The red flags are easy to see in hindsight. The advisor barely glanced at my ETF/Stock portfolio. He wanted to sell that quantum plan. The worst things however are the long yearly commitment and early surrender penalty.

At the time, I just didnt see how one-sided and unfair it was. This only benefits RL360, and pressures customers who are considering cancelling. If you wish to cancel, you must choose between paying a high early surrender penalty or continue paying high investing fees. How this is legal, I dont know.

Does an index fund make you pay an early exit fee? No.

My early surrender penalty was around $10,000 USD. I feel scammed out of this money by a financial advisor who I know was paid up front for getting me to sign up. I believe that RL360s investment products are sub-par at best and their sales practices are questionable.

Ask an advisor selling one of these products if they would invest their own money into one. If they answer yes, leave the meeting.

I have enjoyed much better returns managing my own portfolio over 12 years. Taxes arent all that difficult either. Educate yourself, and youll be fine.

There are many other options and dont let an advisor tell you otherwise.

Signing up for the RL360 quantum policy was the worst financial decision I have ever made in my life, but cancelling the policy was my best. I will tell any expat interested in investing to avoid RL360 and look for better options.

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Pros:
  • Website easy to navigate
Cons:
  • High fees
  • Long policies

Preferred solution: End early surrender penalties, lower fees to reasonable amounts

User's recommendation: Avoid it, there are much better choices

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Lynzee Ooj

Would be happy to receive your advices anadaubie@***.fr

Guest

Anybody know how to proceed with some kind of legal action or who to file a complaint with?

Guest

Thanks for this! Good to know I was not just imagining that RL360 Quantum policy is a really lousy investment opportunity. Lesson learnt.

Guest

I invested in a 10-year plan - the fee structure was not explained, RL360 blame my Advisor but they made $20k in fees and charges. I made - nothing.

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Anonymous
map-marker Dammam, Eastern Province

Mis-sold investment

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RL360 Quantum policy. Sold to me seven and a half years ago as a good investment. Pay in £500 per month. The figures in the sales blurb showed three examples: 8%, 4% and 2%, with 4% being the "advised" estimate. Seven years on, it's made nothing, not a penny. It's only been in the black about two or three weeks during the whole term. I have other investments, which have done quite well - but I think the problem with the Quantum is the hidden and barely decipherable charging structure.
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User's recommendation: DO NOT have anything to do with this company.

George M Yic

"Number two-ism"

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As most people know, the Jews hate Protestants, particularly those that kicked them out for 400 years. - The British. As RL360 is a Jewish company, of course. Do not deal with them directly if you have a British accent as they will not deal with you fairly. Again, unless you are very Jewish, working through Jewish brokers or have a non- British accent avoid these sad office trolls and leave them to their horrific half life on the *** infested rock that is the Isle of Man.
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Pros:
  • Irrelevant when basics are absent
Cons:
  • Directness and personnel quality
  • Basic lack of honesty

Preferred solution: Let the company propose a solution

User's recommendation: As above

Jeremy B Why

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Avoid Financial Catastrophe

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Beware of RL360 pension products like QROPS. They can tie you in for up to 10 years with no way out and punitive costs when offshore investments go bad. My pension is around 20% of what it used to be and still they charge a 1% annual fee. This company has no empathy or professional integrity. They are setup offshore in order to escape the scrutiny of the British financial authorities, which puts your hard-earned savings at risk. They will take all financial control away from you and put it in the hands of crooked trustees and unchecked advisors. If the products sound too good to be true, it's because they are. Don't find out the hard way. Offshore SIPPs will be the next creative financial instrument to crash.
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Loss:
$100000
Cons:
  • Ripped off & high charges when taking money out

Preferred solution: Price reduction

User's recommendation: Do not move pension offshore

Brian W Xaq

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Unhappy with RL360

I have held a "Quantum" investment account with RL360 for the last seven years. I pay £500 a month into it as a way of saving for my retirement. I monitor it regularly and can only remember about two weeks or so in the past seven years when it's been in the black. I would have been better off just taking that money and stuffing it under the mattress.
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Cons:
  • Loses money

User's recommendation: Don't do it people!

Alan D Fcn

Do not use this company

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I was advised to transfer my pension from UK, as I live in Norway. The pension in UK was gaining a guaranteed 3% per year.

I was informed I could get 8%.

To date I have lost some £35 thousand had I have left my pension in UK. This was done through RL 360.

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Loss:
$35000

Preferred solution: Let the company propose a solution

3 comments
Guest

Have a PIMS with them. Locked in for 10 years and charges do not reduce even if amounts are reduced on the account.

Maintenance fees are extremely high. If you buy shares you get charged crazy custodian fees and you cannot even select the maxim price for the purchase of shares.

Compared today to on line stock dealing charges it is incredibly extensive with no tangible benefit. They combined with advisers s that if things go wrong it is the adviser fault but yet they allow you to purchase even super risky instruments like autocallables.I think a law should be introduced to allow investors to renegotiate terms in line with market and not permit theese company to charge rates not in line with holdings.

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I did same: $400k PIMS for 10 years - they made $20k in fees and charges, blamed my nominated Advisor for poor performance. I made: nothing. Worst investment I ever made.

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Dishonest Lot

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NILESH M Mly

Been ripped off when taking money out. DONT EVER USE THIS COMPANY

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THEY HAVE NOW TAKEN OVER 10000gbp I WANT TO CANCELL BUT I WILL LOSE A LOT MORE
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Loss:
$10000
Reason of review:
Problem with delivery

Preferred solution: Full refund

NILESH M Mly

Been ripped off when taking money out

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I had transferred my money from my company, I left the company 16yrs ago. I had moved to Canada in 2004 an advisor called me 2017 and told me I should move the money to rl360 as the interest and gains were much better. I have taken money out and has cost me substantial amount of money, also from what I invested 126,000GBP the money went down to 119,000 within 1yr. Every time I have taken money it has taken over 1 mth to get my money. Iam not sure what I can do to get my money. Can you help. My email address is nileshdmistry@***.com
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Loss:
$5000
Cons:
  • Ripped off & high charges when taking money out
Reason of review:
Return, Exchange or Cancellation Policy

Preferred solution: Full refund

John C Lis

Quantum savings plan - avoid it

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This regular savings plan offers all sorts of apparent benefits but what is not explained to you is the impact of the initial unit charges. They are never mentioned in the illustrations. They are in the terms and conditions but you almost need a Ph.D. in Quantum Physics to work out what is happening. The net effect is that you really are committed to the full term and keeping up the regular payments. Do not lower the payments and do not take a payment holiday because you lose bonus - and the bonus is the key to recouping the charges.

The premium incentive (which ironically loses value and simply generates more initial unit charges), the increased allocation and the "loyalty" bonus are all paid for by the initial unit charges. You get nothing for free. It's all a clever way to keep you tied in until the end.

Like many, I too was (and am) really concerned about this product and all the charges. I built a spreadsheet to model my investment. Essentially for a 1500 pound a month over 20 years and 5.5% growth you will pay 38000 pounds in initial unit fees (i.e. you are losing at least one of your monthly premiums per year). You will also pay 1.5% in contract fees (so the actual return is 4%) but I am not clear if there are investment products that have lower basic annual fees.

Clearly this sounds terrible and the surrender penalties are high. However once you add in the incentive at the beginning and the final bonus plus an enhanced allocation of 102% I was extremely surprised to see that you seem essentially to get the charges back. I modelled for 7.5% growth and got the same result. Essentially none of these bonuses are bonuses. They simply pay for all those charges. If however you stick to it and choose good underlying investments then it is not a disaster. But you must keep up the full premiums (or you start to lose the bonus) and you must get to the end.

I would never choose this product ever again but I'm not sure I need to bail out either. However, if you are not getting the 3 types of additional payments then I think you will lose money. I believe they must make a lot of money from people who exit early (which I think is disgraceful and unethical) because it seems that the product is performing badly.

This product is in my view overly complicated, mis-represented, inflexible and I would stay clear of it but if you are already in, maybe you should think carefully about whether to exit. You would need to find something with much lower annual management/contract fees to recoup the surrender losses. I haven't modelled products with shorter time spans and therefore perhaps no bonuses. Maybe you do lose money on those. I am not a financial adviser so I hope my calculations are correct!

If you haven't yet invested in Quantum then my advice is simple: don't!

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Reason of review:
Not as described/ advertised

Preferred solution: Full refund

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Ossie Ivz

did you get a full refund of the money invested? or what is your next plan? I´ve just begun several months ago with their plan and I am regretting it.

Anonymous

They make up the rules as they go along

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RL360 is not a company to be trusted amd i sorry for every being persuaded to enter into a 20 year policy. They regularly divert the premium payment into their own account until you make a serious complaint. Each time they have offered a different excuse. What is more worrying is that there is nothing in the T&C of the policy that allows them to do so. When i have asked them to highlight which clause they are following they ignore my correspondence. If this is the sort of company you want to deal with you have been warned. Do not make the same mistake i have.
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Anonymous

Lose documents

This company lose documents. Then after you get proof of postage sent to them they suddenly turn up. Good job i never resent. My solicitor emails then with an auto trepky and they deny getting it. They are worrying
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Anonymous

This company it’s similar to a Ponzi scheme

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I took a policy with this RL360 a Royal London and they promise if i do invest a certain fixed yearly amount with them after a 15 year you will get as worst scenario the equal amount you was giving at the end of 15 years and they said the first 2 -and half year you will pay for the insurance police but at the end of 15 year you will get all money back as your units are growing up plus an add value wich is you are going to be insured against accidental death or illness all this tme ! But what a surprise your unit never rise up and never enough to equal the amount you invested but in fact the company took from you almost 33% from your capital.

So I will give a practical example about my meaning 15 year fixed amount each year usd$11.249 total amount after 15 year is usd$168.750 . But the reality is only they will payback you usd$113.650 after 15 year. So doing the math you will find the following things. So they screw policyholders with a net loss of usd$55.085.

The funny thing it’s always you investment it’s losing money so never ever your money will pair the amount you invested at the end of 15 year as they said. In my concept don’t ever never do an invest in that company.

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Guest

I had the same issue. I do not trust them anymore.

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Do you have more information on this company?

Micki Lto

Hi,You should talk to the Offshore Litigation Group, a independent group of people just like you that have lost money by investing with RL360 and others.The group helps you get your money back without paying expense lawyers and legal fees.What country were you in.Feel free to email me at katiebaileyglos@***.com or connect with me on LinkedIn visit www.offshorelitigationgroup.comHope this helpsKatie

Arther Ort
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The web page is not working, could you please confirm the web address?

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Anonymous
map-marker London, Ontario

RL 360 uses lawsuits to threaten reviewers of their products

buyer beware:

http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/rl360-insurance/

"Clicking that result to visit my own forum, I saw that some MMM readers had gone through some very bad experiences with the company:

RL360 Insurance – I dun Goofed

Even more interestingly, there was another website in those search results that stated: “I have taken down the contents of this page due to an ongoing legal procedure against me.” The original title of the article was apparently “The RL360 scam – my $15,000 Investment lesson”, and an older version of the text is still available on archive.org.

My legal team and I are still waiting to find out exactly what is in the accompanying lawsuit behind this subpoena from RL360, but I am pretty excited to see it.

The *** Field of “Reputation Management”

There is a whole category of companies that regularly review their own search engine results, and if they see something they don’t like, they send lawsuits to the owners of the offending websites. The practice is so common, it’s called a “Strategic Lawsuit against Public Participation” (SLAPP). The practice is illegal in many states, but not all of them yet. Federal laws are needed to prevent it on a US-wide basis.

The goal of these lawsuits is to scare the website owner into taking down the content. That won’t work here at Mr. Money Mustache, because the site has enough attorney readers (and income) that it can afford to publicize and defend against any suit."

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Loss:
$20
Cons:
  • Strategic lawsuit against public participation
Reason of review:
corporate suppression of free expression

Preferred solution: drop your lawsuits and behave like a good corporate citizen

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